Thursday, August 15, 2013

Catching Up Part 1: Dead Serious

This last semester was pretty tough for me. I managed to do well in my accounting classes, which are pleasantly introvert friendly. Otherwise things didn't go too well. As things were not going well I had started to notice a number of unpleasant side-effects from my medication including some pretty significant weight gain. The real problem was something we just hoped was a side-effect of the medication, which was a significant increase in the frequency with which I was having self-destructive or suicidal thoughts.

I want to bring something up here for clarity. I think that in times of great stress, most people are likely to experience this kind of thinking at some point or another. For those who have mental illness the frequency with which you have these kinds of thoughts is going to increase because you experience more intense stress more often than most people via the effect of the illness. If you have loved ones who have any form of mental illness it's probably worthwhile to make sure they know to be open with you about this kind of thing. Maybe they don't have a problem with it, maybe they don't. You're going to want to know if they do though. If they are having a severe depressive episode, you should go ahead and ask if they are safe. For those of you who don't have those kinds of thoughts with any kind of regularity, here's a little breakdown of self-destructive thought flavors, because there are several. This is not supposed to be all inclusive, but I'm keeping my definitions broad enough that most cases should fall into one or the other. I'm going to define each flavor by the thought that it centers around.

"I want to die"
This is easily the most common form of the thought and, lets be clear, it can be very common. It is also the least worrying form as a general rule. The thing that really defines this flavor is that you don't want to do anything that will lead to your death, you just want to be gone, vanish, escape, or something along those lines. It's unpleasant, but generally since you aren't willing to take action there is little risk involved. It's just painful to experience. You are basically wishing for misfortune to strike you because that would somehow be better. Some people might not really count this as a truly suicidal thought, but I think it needs to be treated as such. If you experience this form for long enough then it can shift to the truly dangerous form...

"I want to kill myself"
This is the one everyone thinks of when they think suicidal thoughts. It is this one where you start to think about potential methodology and making some kind of plan. If you or a loved one is experiencing this flavor of self-destructive thought, then you need to get help IMMEDIATELY. Whether that means snuggling with loved ones on a couch, or calling the suicide helpline DO IT. This is plain old dangerous. The worst thing you can do while experiencing this is to isolate yourself. If you are having this kind of thought then get into the company of someone, anyone, who cares about you and talk to them as much as you can until the thought fades.

My big issue with having that be the only flavor of thought that is considered a "suicidal" or "self-destructive" thought, especially by those who are experiencing these kinds of thoughts, is that it's not going to be the first thought that comes to mind. Before you get here you will have experienced one or both of the other two, and by keeping better track of those other two you can hopefully avoid this one.

"I wish I were dead"
This is the "It's a Wonderful Life" kind of thinking and it can lead to the more motivated flavor very easily, but it does not necessarily involve a call to action. I feel like this deserves to be separate from the other flavors because it feels very different. I would say it is more dangerous than the "I want to die" flavor because while wanting to die sucks, being so full or self-hate and disgust that you wish you had not existed to do the things you have done is exceptionally painful This kind of thought is generally accompanied by a total invalidation of anything good that you have done, and as such can generally be countered by reasserting the validity and goodness of your accomplishments.

With that fun bit out of the way I'll go ahead and confess that towards the end of the semester I was having the "want to die" flavor of self-destructive thoughts, on average, about 3-5 times a day. When those thoughts intruded on me, I did my best to dismiss them immediately, and generally that worked out pretty well, at least for a while, but that was just on an average day where nothing special, good or bad, happened. So I went into the doctor, and I've just finished the process of weaning off the medication I was taking. My anxiety levels have gone up, and that's... exciting, but the self-destructive thoughts have diminished significantly. On an average day, there aren't any! That's what I call progress. I was going to do more catch up here, but this seems like about the right time to wrap up. There may be another post today giving some more updates, but it might have to wait for a while.

As a final note, I want to be clear that I am not a professional. I find psychology fascinating, have done a lot of personal research, and have taken a college level course in which I did very well, but most of what I'm pulling these definitions from is personal experience. Your mileage may vary. However, I feel like this is something that really needs to be talked about. I think that self-destructive thoughts are probably more common that most people expect, but those experiencing those thoughts especially the dominant "I want to die" flavor, don't want to freak people out by saying, "Yeah, I regularly want to die." It makes people scared or sad, and that is natural, but it's better for them to be a little worried than to have to deal with the potential consequences of just leaving the sufferer alone. And if telling people about it leads to more people getting whatever help they need then things will just be better.

I'd love to see some discussion on this topic in the comments, at least partially because it'll let me know people are reading, but also because I feel like this needs to get talked about, so feel free to discuss. I'll try to answer any questions that people have.

5 comments:

  1. I've got to say this is an interesting read. (Disclaimer now: im not the most sensitive of dudes and sometimes things i say are taken in a way i don't intend because i don't quite understand how other people think so this is not meant to be offensive merely my thoughts.)
    I've had some times in my life where i thought i was in a pretty dark place but i can only remember once or twice where i got the a point where i felt hopeless enough that I didn't feel it was worth fighting on. I have a very hard time imagining what that would feel like. I think it has to do with my more aggressive tendencies (e.g. when a moose ran in front of my car I tried to drive around it instead of braking, i think my fight instinct is a little out of control) One thing I am wondering about though is does playing in a RP campaign help you at all? Would there be some way that that could help externalize your internal issues because for me my aggression bleeds out through online games. I need a chance to bash some heads in and that's what I do. Just wondering if you've been able to experience the same thing maybe feel more in control or tangible progress of leveling up and been able to connect that to your anxiety.

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    1. Playing in a RP game can be helpful, it gets you out into the company of people who, presumably, enjoy your company and are relatively like-minded. This is generally good, however, if the person suffering from these feelings doesn't feel like they can be open about it with their group, then attending a social event of this time, while enjoyable, still imposes a very real tax on the person's emotional energy because they expend so much effort on not just enjoying it, but appearing to enjoy it. Whether they are keeping up the facade to protect themselves or to avoid being a downer at an activity that was supposed to be fun for everyone, it drains a lot of the enjoyment from it.
      As for externalizing things, with self-destructive thoughts there just isn't a lot you can do. Generally my best bet is to try to do just about anything that can keep my mind occupied for a while until the worst of it passes and I can try to work with what is left to figure out more about what caused it and what I can do about that. With anxiety in particular, doing something I feel competent at can help me by reinforcing that I do have some kind of skills. However, the more intense the self-loathing and deprecation get, the fewer things there are that I feel confident enough about to even try. When things are really bad I often don't even feel up to playing a video game because I feel doomed to fail.

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  2. "I think that in times of great stress, most people are likely to experience this kind of thinking at some point or another. For those who have mental illness the frequency with which you have these kinds of thoughts is going to increase because you experience more intense stress more often than most people via the effect of the illness." YES. EXACTLY. Well said.

    I'm glad you're doing better off the medication! Medicine can be wonderful, but it can also turn awful when the side effects kick in, and I'm glad you were able to wean off it without too much fallout.

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    1. I think it's really helpful for people to keep in mind that the human spirit is much more easily broken than we give it credit for. If anything it is our ability to recover from this that is impressive. I think that as we realize that this is something that everyone is likely to face at some point, but which those with mental illness are more prone to, it will help us to be willing to share the burdens that these things produce.

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  3. Your definitions are right on! I have experienced all of these flavors at one point or another in my life's journey. I know Charles has as well. Anytime I am under stress I find that I automatically go to the "I want to die" flavor usually in the form of "I can't deal, I just want to disappear/hide from the world". I really have to fight this impulse to go climb under a blanket and hide from the world and all the stress that comes with it. I have to find a way to push myself forward because if I give in to the desire to disappear then I know the "I want to kill myself" flavor will poke it's evil head and I'll end up back where I don't want to be again. I agree that really any deprecating thought is a thought that will lead to suicidal ideation or the "I want to kill myself" flavor of thoughts. For some it is a very long jump between the flavors but for others it is just a small leap and they're there. I think it's terrific that you are putting yourself out there and talking about these things that are so often taboo in our society. Real help will only come as we talk about it.

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